Tuesday, April 10, 2007

About that albatross...

Take a CLOSE look at how the mariner dealt with his albatross. Have any of you ever heard the saying, "He has an albatross around his neck?" Hmmm...anybody wearing any birds around their necks? This is NOT a literal question.

41 comments:

For every action there is an equal and opposite government program. said...

I'm just going to post the Albatross part here so it's easier for everyone to read it:

At length did cross an Albatross,
Thorough the fog it came ;
As if it had been a Christian soul,
We hailed it in God's name.

It ate the food it ne'er had eat,
And round and round it flew.
The ice did split with a thunder-fit ;
The helmsman steered us through !

And a good south wind sprung up behind ;
The Albatross did follow,
And every day, for food or play,
Came to the mariner's hollo !

In mist or cloud, on mast or shroud,
It perched for vespers nine ;
Whiles all the night, through fog-smoke white,
Glimmered the white Moon-shine.'

'God save thee, ancient Mariner !
From the fiends, that plague thee thus !--
Why look'st thou so ?'--With my cross-bow
I shot the ALBATROSS.

For every action there is an equal and opposite government program. said...

I've never heard the phrase "He has an albatross around his neck"
However, I do understand the meaning and I have heard of a "guilty aura" and a "guilty look"... but that's as close as I've heard...

Gerald said...
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Gerald said...

I have never heard that saying, but it probably means that somebody looks guilty or has guilt placed upon him. Whenever bad things started happening to the ship, the crew put the bird around the mariners neck to show he was guilty and place all the blame for their misfortune on him.

Johnny said...

I have never heard the saying but I agree with the other two saying that he was probably guilty for something.

Judy said...

I have never heard that saying either..but I am going to have to say that I think everyone is right about the guilt thing.

For every action there is an equal and opposite government program. said...

He was guilty because he SHOT the good omen... he killed the single good thing that saved them and kept them happy...
the moment he killed the bird everything started to fall apart.

the crew blamed him for everything and hung the bird around his neck to signify that it was HIS fault they were in trouble...

chandra said...

does anyone else find it strange that elizabeth is like victor's sister while growing up but, upon his mother's death he was asked to marry elizabeth?

Garrett said...

Albatross.."A seemingly inescapable moral or emotional burden, as of guilt or responsibility." Complements of dictionary.com.

For every action there is an equal and opposite government program. said...

Not only do I find it strange... but a little unnerving as well...
Why was he asked to marry her again?

For every action there is an equal and opposite government program. said...

Thanks Garrett... that helps

chandra said...

elizabeth was presented to victor as a "gift" from his mother.

Gerald said...

where does it say that he was asked to marry her?

For every action there is an equal and opposite government program. said...

Wow... a "Gift"?
That's incredibly strange...

chandra said...

page 17 and 18 is where it talks about her

Anonymous said...

I agree with everyone else's comments...if he had not shot the Albatross they wouldn't have had any trouble. He was blamed for everything that was occurring afterwards and to show this the bird was put around his neck. I think, as well as the others do, that the placing of the bird around his neck was to make a feeling of guilt come over him to realize what he had done

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chandra said...

it says that "we called each other familiarly by the name of cousin. no word, no expression could body forth the kind of relation in which she stood to me - my more than sister, since till death she was mine."

Brittany said...

honestly that is kinda creepy

All day...every day said...

I have heard that phrase by my grandparents before...I know that it indirectly has something to do with a guilty conscience though.

Gerald said...

She was "presented as a gift" when they were both young. It was just meant like she was a suprise for him, not a literal gift. On page 18, he says, "...I, with all childish seriousness, interpreted her words literally and looked upon Elizabeth as mine..." Elizabeth was not actually a gift to him.

chandra said...

it wasn't the gift part that bothered me it was the fact that his mother ask him to marry a girl who was like his sister.

Anonymous said...

i think its cool to get a girl as a present even though she was her adopted sister


just throwing that out there

Gerald said...

i still dont see exactly where she asks him to marry her

Anonymous said...

Personally, I've never heard that phrase. Does it mean that you're carrying a burden around your neck?


Shlickonem, Chase.

chandra said...

i was using spark notes to make sure i was understanding it right and it says that by gift it was telling him to marry her.

Tinolatino_srs07 said...

i agree with everyone yea!!!

Gerald said...

i disagree that she wanted them to get married, but i do think they have a "closer relationship" than just siblings.

Brittany said...

no if you go on to read chapter three victors mother has scarlet fever and she is about to die so she asks them to get married.

erica said...

She may be "like" a sister to Victor... but not actually his sister. I don't see what the big deal is if it is his mother's dying wish for them to get married... They're not blood related. What does Victor have to say about it?

For every action there is an equal and opposite government program. said...

If the Albatross is a good omen... What does that make the Monster?

Garrett said...

It's still pretty weird to me...I mean would you marry someone who was like a brother or sister to you? I think not!

Judy said...

Yeah I dont see how you can marry someone who is like your brother or sister..its just gross.

Johnny said...

I see where some of you say that it is gross because it would seem like it but like erika said they are not blood related

D' Rock said...

i feel that he is guilty. I think that it is weird that the are going to get married... would you marry your adopted brother or sister. It just is weird that you would marry someone that has grown up like you most of your life.

Judy said...

I guess Erica made me see it from both points of view. I dont know what to think about it anymore. I personally could never marry someone who is like my brother but hey if you can do it..then more power to ya!

Johnny said...

it would be really weird but at least you wouldn't run out of things to talk about

Garrett said...

Wow you guys are think it would be just great to marry someone you grew up around and think of as a sibling? They are practically related. I personally wouldn't say more power to them, but to each their own I guess.

Anonymous said...

I have never heard this quote before, but I think it probably means that whomever is "wearing the albatross" around their neck is guilty of the charges placed upon them. This is why the Mariner was wearing it, because he got the blame for all the problems on the ship.

Jeremy L. Pledger said...

this doesn't really have much to do with anything, but once when i was little i read a hank the cowdog book and hank was accused of killing a chicken and as punishment roper made him wear the chicken head around his neck. hank hated it because he wanted to eat the chicken but couldn't because it wasn't close to his mouth. everything turned out okay though because hank was able to prove that it was some coyotes that killed the chicken not him.

Mikey B. said...

my grandpa hit a chicken the other day......